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Re: a question that concerns any muslim who wishes to join a martial arts school

Subject: Re: a question that concerns any muslim who wishes to join a martial arts school
by mariusz on 2007/12/30 18:32:59

Mr. Musa Ibn Aadam,

Good people here gave you already a lot of good advice.

You stated your problem clearly and I have a lot of respect for what you said. Out of that respect, let me express my personal opinion. I am a religious person. I am not a Muslim, but this does not matter for the purpose of what I want to say. It may help you or may not help you. I hope it will give you another point to think about.

1) For the reasons that Mr. Pete Lohstroh just stated, I also believe that this art is probably not be for you at your current stage in life. Really.

2) I will also add that you have to be aware that once you understand some of the concepts of the bujinkan art you may come to the point where your way of looking at the world will evolve. As such, your faith may also evolve not necessarily in a way you would anticipate right now. I can say that my faith evolved as a result of training and going to Japan. I do not regret it but it was not what I anticipated (and I was already 30-something years strong n my faith).
On one hand, what Ercan stated is a very deep truth as I see the parallel to my faith - once you have God in your heart it is so close that nothing can really touch it. On the other hand, if your faith is very "young", the experience of bujinkan training will probably create many feelings that will seem to you like dissonances with your faith and will be far from comfortable.

3) Some more food for thought. My understanding is that the tradition of bujinkan art is connected with something that in English language is called spirituality (for a lack of better word IMHO). The atheists can ignore it happily and keep training, no harm done. However, this spiritual ideas are universal IMHO and present in any major religion. People of many different religions do train together in the bujinkan with no problem.
I would suggest that, before you really decide to join bujinkan training, you read slowly and carefully and ponder the ideas expressed in the following book:
Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi, "The Grandmaster's Book of Ninja Training"

4) If I understand correctly Hatsumi Sensei is a Buddhist... and... he got a special recognition form the late Pope John-Paul II. It is like the head of the Catholic Church said "it is OK to train with Dr. Hatsumi". This suggests to me some extended "ecumenism" . Perhaps the same is possible for the Muslim religion? I am not an expert here.

5) And BTW: "Shikin Haramitsu Daikomyo" is a Buddhist Prayer referring to enlightenment and Satori etc... and we say it at the beginning and end of each keiko. This prayer can be probably be translated into any faith (i.e. into "Our Father..." in Christianity). If somebody is of an atheist faith (I mean he BELIEVES that there is no God) he can translate it into something meaningful too. If your faith is such that you cannot do it then you lack flexibility required for the bujinkan training (not to mention ninjutsu training).

And out of curiosity, if I may ask a question: what is the goal for you in the "ninjutsu trainng" that you talk about? What would you like to achieve? For example, I joined bujikan because i met a great teacher with skills worth learning and great people, most of the skills that we learn are more general; ninjutsu is maybe several % of training (to be increased this year though...).


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