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Re: An article with solid advice across arts

Subject: Re: An article with solid advice across arts
by tenchijincanuck on 2010/10/26 13:22:59

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That wasn't the point of the article. To put it in perspective say you go to the hombu and train with one of the shihan and some random 15th dan, not the teacher of the class, walks around the class giving advice willy nilly. Should the 15th dan dispense advice in the presence of that teacher?

And similarly say you have a visiting budoka and he gives advice to your students about how to do certain techniques. Ought he do that, given you are the teacher?


Posted on: 10/21 5:23




Rob,
You're changing your argument. What started as a comment about dojo training in general has now become a venting session about foreigners who visit and dole out advice like its their birthright and responsibility. Nobody likes when those guys do that. Those guys don't like when other guys do it to them, either.

Really, you've never been solicited advice from a Japanese national? I don't believe that. It happens. It especially happens to women. It may be a result of Soke leaving room for foreigners to do it. It may be another reason. The article leads me to believe that this is more of a common annoyance for all martial arts schools in general.


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RJHIII wrote:
Jim,

I would agree there might be times when certain people out to give unsolicited advice, however I'd like to keep that number down to 5-6 people total, i.e. Hatsumi sensei and the menkyo kaiden holders.

We have a slight problem if we allow more than that, what qualifies a person to be highly experienced. Would RVD count? Also, what is dangerous to someone that can do it? For example, a juggler of chainsaws juggling chainsaws ins't all that dangerous, but to someone who can't juggle them it may be.







So that we don't get careless and go dangerously off course, I'll respond to the question involving the analogy. That game's fun. The straw man and the ad hominem you can keep. You know better than that.

I should have qualified experience to say "outside experience". It was implied but not explained well enough. My bad. Under your analogy, it would fit if the juggling "lesson of the day" at the Rob the Magnificent's (sorry I couldn't resist :) ) juggling school was specifically on fitting chainsaws into the act. Jim No Thumbs, an ex-logger who is new to the school, arrives a little late but just in time to see some cool skills but hear some bad advice about chainsaws he once received just prior to obtaining his current moniker. There are senior students at the school who have studied there for years. Everyone holds them in high regard, looks to them for advice and sometimes for lessons outside of the normal class time. Each of the class seniors swears up and down that they are all seeing this for the first time. It's coming their turn to start picking up chainsaws.

Given his years of experience in his previous career that had him carrying, using, and practicing chainsaw safety (most of the time ;) ) ought Jim No Thumbs mention his concern to the instructor of the class?

I believe so.


-Jim

This is a good topic. Thanks for bringing it up.
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