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Re: Research tools
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I second that. The list is excellent. Only the best representation of the art there.

I would start my journey there. Granted, the Shidoshi are all over the country. There are certain teachers who are "better" than others for different things in different areas of Australia.

-ben

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Re: Takagi Yoshin Ryu founder's grave?
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According to the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten (1978 version), the founder of Hontai Takagi Youshin Ryu Taijutsu (本体高木陽心流体術), where Hatsumi-sensei is listed as the only hier, is

Takagi Uzaimon Shigenobu (高木折右衛門重信)

The founder of Takagi Ryu Jujutsu - Sojutsu - Etc. (高木流柔術、槍術、他), where Hatsumi-sensei is listed as one of six hiers, is:

Takagi Uzaimon Shigetoshi (高木折右衛門重俊)

These are two distinct names, and therefore appear to be distinct individuals (e.g. neither could be read phonetically the same as the other according to my wife ).

HOWEVER, in both cases, the Ryuha is passed down from its founder to the same guy:

Takagi Umanosuke Shigesada (高木馬之輔重卓)

Hmmm..... That doesn't really answer your question, but could help in some way.

Perhaps Jeff Mueller or Don Roley could help to clarify.

-ben

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Re: e-budo
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bencole wrote:
...with most of the population there either kyu-ranked or Genbukan members, I am wary to move away from the Forum...


Ow! My ego!


Kim, you get my point.

There are very few people with ANY actual training experience in Japan with Soke and the Shihan on E-budo. What's left is the diluted soup of the soup of the soup-- people who make up for their lack of understanding with Gracie Jujutsu and push-ups.

It's a very sad state, and I think that it IS something that is somewhat rectifiable IF there is a presence there. Without a presence, things can only deteriorate, imo.

I believe that Shidoshi have an obligation to impart the teachings of the art to their best capability. These "teachings" have nothing to do with cool things you've picked up over the years from other arts, nothing to do with first aid you know (as a paramedic), nothing to do with making fires (as a Boy Scout), nothing to do with rolling with groundfighters--UNLESS it was part of the curriculum as taught by Soke. It is NOT something that someone interpreted as "This is what Soke REALLY meant," added a few boxing gloves and NHB take-downs, and slapped the word "Bujinkan" on his dojo.

I don't ask for much...just integrity of the teachings (if you consider that "not much" )

Otherwise, you are "doing your own thing," which is the closest thing to a curse there is in the Bujinkan.

-ben

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Re: E-Budo
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What a GREAT post, Duncan! You hit on all the most important points and DO have a convincing position.

As you know, I agree with Jeff's position that an ongoing presence is a "necessary evil." It's hard to imagine what would happen there without any semblance of guidance based on the teachings of Japan.

It's already evident that people are reducing the art down to a series of techniques to be traded in online video format. With most of the population there either kyu-ranked or Genbukan members, I am wary to move away from the Forum. Soon, the Bujinkan will be characterized by groundfighting and bag-work in the eyes of those who visit E-budo looking for information. Further, without a presence, I doubt they would ever find Kutaki no Mura.

It might be interesting to see how much things would deteriorate through such a moratorium of Bujinkan Shidoshi for six months or so.... I would be willing to go along with that.

-ben

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phone line?
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So what you saying is by studying in Japan, from soke, and his direct students I will be getting less of the "chinese phone line" effect.(snip)Thus gaining a better understanding of the art?


Er... What I'm saying is that these two men are great teachers. Learn from them. Gain their insights first-hand. Train with Hatsumi-sensei first hand. Make the most of your rare stay in Japan and TRAIN!!!

That's what I'm saying.

-ben

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Training in Japan
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First thing to do is visit Joji "George" Ohashi's website. <http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/bujinkan/>

Attend training with Soke on Tuesday night at Ayase.

Meet either Nakadai-sensei or Shiraishi-sensei. Both are excellent for learning "the basics." Nakadai teaches out near you (Omote Sando on Wednesday morning and evening) and Shiraishi teaches out in the Chiba area.

Take up training with one of them.

>I guess another thing I was kind of wondering is if you learn faster in Japan? <

I don't think so, but you do learn "differently." Seeing how you have a rare opportunity to be there for 1.5 years, take advantage of it! Learn as much as you can! Spend as much time with Soke as you can as well. He won't be with us forever, and you need to understand--in your own heart--what it is that he is trying to impart through the Bujinkan. Bring that back with you when you return.

>I realize that its dependent on the teacher, but in general more teachers here are higher ranked than those outside of Japan. <

Look at the Budo NOT the rank. If you are not good enough yet to see it, then find someone whose judgment you trust, and ask him/her who they would recommend.

Feel free to email me with questions anytime. <bcole1999@hotmail.com>

Best of luck!

-ben

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Re: Learning the language
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Grammatically speaking, Japanese is MUCH easier than most languages in my opinion. The difficulty is understanding the "contextual communication," which requires leaps of faith until experience makes it natural interpretation.

Anyone who wants to understand the Japanese should read, "Hidden Differences: Doing Business With the Japanese"
by Edward T. Hall and Mildred Reed Hall. This book really has nothing to do with "business" and everything to do with "understanding culture underpinnings." I highly recommend it.

Also, if you email me, I will provide you with a pdf file I call "Japanese 101." It is something I put together to help a Bujinkan friend learn some Japanese. (The sample sentences have to do with weapons and drinking for the most part, because both enhance training in my opinion. ) It is basically all Japanese grammar, in the order *I* think they should be taught to native English speakers. I've heard good things from friends who have used it, so I continue to make it available.

I also recommend the Power Japanese series, especially the one called "All About Particles"
by Naoko Chino. You can find used copy of Amazon right now for $4!

My email address is <bcole1999@hotmail.com>. I don't check on Kutaki every day, so you will proabably have an easier time reaching me via email.

Good luck!

-ben

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