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Re: Why does being a ninja make you more of a target?
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Thank you for all the information Tessen, but it was not new to me. Except that the term karateka, judoka, kendoka, etc are often used to describe individuals rather than houses or families, although is also applied to a group of individuals on occasion, e.g. he is a karateka, they are karateka, etc.

I was really just looking for a suffix to taijutsu for efficiency's sake and wonder whether 'ka' can be affixed to 'jutsu' as it can to 'do'.

To put it bluntly, is 'taijutsuka' an acceptable use of Japanese language and can I use it to describe people?

Posted on: 2010/10/19 21:38
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Re: Columbia Tai Kai Godan Test
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I'm not on anyone's 'side' regarding the alleged events in question but the post quoted above still looks fairly 'personal' to me.

Isn't calling someone's statement BS the same as calling that person a BSer or liar, and couldn't that be taken as personal?

Especially as in real life I'm sure other expletives would be inserted.

Posted on: 2010/10/19 16:52
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Re: Why does being a ninja make you more of a target?
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Quote:

Lockfield wrote:

piece of advice, good sir:
if you don't offend ANYONE, you ARE NOT telling the truth.

now please, do go on.


I also read recently that if you consistently please other people then you are not following your own true path.

I do have a rather embarassing question though, at least it is embarassing for someone who has been involved in this art on and off since 1986, and that is: What would be the correct noun for a practitioner of taijutsu? Not that I wish to label myself but it would save a lot of typing when talking about other practitioners. Can one simply add 'ka' as in karateka, making us taijutsuka, or is that incorrect grammatically? 'Budoka' is too broad and to me suggest a higher level of skill than most of us have, and I doubt if anyone has ever called themselves ninpoka because it sounds sillier than ninja.

Or simply, can 'ka' be added to 'jutsu' or only to 'do'?.

Posted on: 2010/10/19 16:47
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Re: Columbia Tai Kai Godan Test
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Well I think you're all weird.

Posted on: 2010/10/19 7:01
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Re: Opinions or personal attacks
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I think I can guess where Ed would like the foot to go, but I think that with Mark the feeling is mutual, except that the tabi is on the other foot.

Is this really getting anywhere or do we all have the jist by now?


Posted on: 2010/10/19 2:32
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Re: Why does being a ninja make you more of a target?
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A nickname that has been very helpful in marketing though!

I'm sure I can dig out myriad examples of interviews with Soke from the 80's and even 90's or later where he is clearly being put forward as a ninja grandmaster (which he is, or at least ninjutsu anyhos) and his students as 'ninja' or at least suggesting as much by saying things like "The ninja must do such and such" in the present tense.

I think it is tidier to draw a line under the life of Takamatsu Sensei and say that even he was clinging to the last vestiges of being able to be described as a ninja if the term is to mean the same thing in 1950 as it did in 1550 and earlier. There are no more, and can be no more, ninja. Today we are only custodians of skills once possessed by ninja (and the equally defunct samurai), and most of us are fairly clumsy even in this capacity.

Also, it was once suggested that the Bujinkan is ninjutsu, but also drawing from non-ninjutsu ryuha, with the overall strategy and ethics being more ninja than samurai derived, whatever this means or if there can even be such a difference now that we have evolved from the 'counter culture mountain loony' idea of the orgins of ninjutsu. But since the term Budo Taijutsu was coined, it seems to be the other way around.

It is more bemusing that so many of our buyu smirk at the idea of a 'cage fighter' when even the most ignorant member of the general public knows that a cage fighter is not someone to be provoked. Ninja however, no fear factor whatsoever, perhaps it is too many turtles, perhaps it is Sho Kosugi's eyeliner, or perhaps, even more worryingly, it is us.

Posted on: 2010/10/18 22:35
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Re: What is the difference between Suiren and Suitonjutsu?
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Why bring the terms Suiren or Suitonjutsu into the equation at all, why not simply say it as it is - Taijutsu in water?


Taijutsu in water. "Suitaijutsu"?

I guess it does not impact on authenticity to use the Japanese language to describe what you are doing, because Japanese is just a language, there is no rule that you can only use Japanese terminology when you are teaching material from densho or kuden originating from hombu.

Where I work there is a lot of corporate management method deriving from Japanese corporate management, and if you put terms like 'kaizen', 'kanban' etc into Google you will come up with this kind of thing more than anything else.

We are not even allowed to say that we are going to have a look at how production operations are going, we have to say that we are going on a 'gemba' which is a 'tool' from said Japanese corporate management 101.

They even give green and black belt awards for practitioners of 'operational excellence', which have even less to do with budo than some of the ranks awarded in the Bujinkan, and that is saying something.

So I hope this doesn't appear as a u-turn on what I said earlier, but I suppose that as long as we are inspired by taijutsu and keeping to its principles, we can use Japanese terminology for water training, climbing, archery, horseriding, pretty much anything that forms part of our extracurricular training, with all my earlier caveats of course.

Posted on: 2010/10/18 7:18
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Re: Why does being a ninja make you more of a target?
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Chubby white guys claiming ANTHING in common with most peoples' idea of what a ninja is/was is hilarious to other martial artists and members of the general public.

But taijutsu is better exercise than going to church, and there are no guarantees with the latter either.

Keep going, have faith, keep it real, enjoy.

especially the last one.

Posted on: 2010/10/18 7:01
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Re: What is the difference between Suiren and Suitonjutsu?
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Of course. I was not being accusatory, I just think it is an interesting take on the way we all do things.

The dojo as laboratory is an excellent analogy.

And Soke does tell us to "Play".

I wouldn't try to cross a deep river in full armour using a spear though, at least not without backup from modern CABA!

Posted on: 2010/10/15 19:46
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Re: Bushin Wa?
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To be fair it seems to be almost entirely limited to the internet where people upset one another and the internet is not the dojo.

I sometimes think that the traditional Japanese custom of forgiving bad behaviour fuelled by alcohol should be extended to internet behaviour.

Although Soke did say that people should not use the internet to make trouble for people, in which case 99% of those of us who have ruffled feathers on internet forums should profer our resignation at once!

As to arguing with higher ranked people, perhaps this is better done in private, if unavoidable, and not pasted across the forums like a tabloid exposé.


Posted on: 2010/10/15 19:38
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