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Re: Firearms training
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The problem with going to someone with SWAT experience, etc is that the dynamics of motion tend to differ from what we do in taijutsu. On one hand, just because you can do taijutsu does not mean you know sight alignment, trigger squeeze, breath control, etc. On the other hand, I have seen a few things by people trying to bring firearms into the Bujinkan and so far they all move more like karateka or something other than Bujinkan.

People seem to throw out all the principles of taijutsu when they pick up a firearm. Hatsumi has a book out on the subject and you can see that he does not change the way he moves when he picks up a pistol. But all the DVDs I see of people trying to show a Bujinkan method of shooting seem to be more influenced by sports like IPSC. I think good karate is good, and good taijutsu is good. But when you try doing taijutsu with a karate type of movement, it is bad. I feel the same way about trying to do taijutsu pistol with IPSC and other movements.

In my case, I served in the military and was a pistol instructor for a while before moving to Japan. While in Japan I examined the use of pistols in taijutsu. Someya is a big fan of firearms, especially the 45 Colt Peacemaker. He and I worked things out over a long time. I would work out with airsoft weapons in Japan and get input from Someya. On occasion I think he consulted with Hatsumi. When I went back to the states I would get in live fire practice, test things out and train under various people in firearms. I shared what I had learned with Someya.

If you want to learn firearms in a Bujinkan method rather than switch programs and move differently, I would suggest you go to Someya. He is rather eager to help if asked and has a huge interest in the matter. Just don't bring him booze as a present.

Posted on: 2009/11/30 4:45
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Re: The Chemestry of Ninjutsu
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Whatever helps you to understand, use it. As you go on in your training your understanding probably will change.


The problem is, if you do not know you will not know when to abandon false concepts. In fact, the more time you put into prior ideas the more likely you are to cling to them in an attempt to save your ego and avoid admitting you wasted all that time and are not as good as those that were not fettered by the same constraints.

I have seen that happen more than once. That may be one of the biggest crimes Hayes has done against others when he came up with the godai stuff IMO.

Posted on: 2009/10/7 11:43
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Re: Bugo (Warrior name)
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Let me just say that after all that I have seen and experienced I would be very reluctant to give someone a warrior name unless the soke of the art I was in gave me express permission to do so. And I will further say that I know of at least one person claiming to have such permission from Hatsumi to be a complete liar in the matter.

I.e. let the buyer beware.

Posted on: 2009/10/7 11:38
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Re: Not Again!
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I work for the Ohio Department of Corrections It should'nt be too hard to find me.....right???

so if any feel the need to see if they are black belt material....let me know---------if you are all so Bujinkan you will remember someone else layed out a challenge.....but hell you are all compliant ukes........right??????


I always love these sort of internet tough guy challenges.

In order to “prove I am black belt material” I am supposed to fly all the way to the US (incurring all flight cost, transfers and accommodation) in order to accept some unspecified challenge (which I take could be anything from a sanctioned MMA bout to an illegal, unlicensed street fight or even a gun battle) against someone I’ve never heard of who, up until this point, seemed to be cyber stalking Martin Dunsky over an internet forum then lurching from spewing violent rhetoric to wanting me to join facebook so he can become my “friend”.

Yeah right ….

It’s the usual thing again of a huge rant and then an unspecified challenge by a complete unknown to some sort of fight against absolutely anyone. Of course the person making the challenge has nothing to lose but supposedly by not accepting … he makes his point and wins anyway.

The title of this thread is correct - “Not Again!”

I have got three judo comps coming up in the next five weeks (although I think I’ll only do two).


I have no horse in this race and don't know either person AFAIK. In fact, the mention that Bujinkanbrisbane is doing a judo competition in a few weeks sets my teeth on edge. Despite all that, I really have to support him when he talks about this whole challenging people over the internet crap.

Why is it people always talking about people being brave enough to travel to face THEM instead of asking if they can come to a seminar or class of the people they have a problem with to better understand where they are coming from?

I have some racist piece of crap trying to use this on me right now on another forum. I can't count the amount of times I have argued with logic and facts on a forum only to be met with the cowards counter of saying that I have to travel to them or be counted as someone who hides behind a keyboard. I really think that most of them are projecting their own traits onto me.

So lets put aside all the macho crap and debate within what we can do on the internet instead of trying to cast others as cowards if they do not spend thousands of dollars doing something we are not willing to do.

Posted on: 2009/10/7 11:35
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Re: How do you rate ......
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ElfTengu,

That is when you tested it with non Bujinkan practitioners. You need to know what situations or abilities you will possibly be up a against in the real world.


A bit of clarification here I think is in order.

Your chances of meeting up with a guy who has studied kali for a few years trying to stick a knife in you is pretty slim compared to an ex felon. Your chances of getting sucker punched by a guy who studies systema is slim compared to a guy who just starts fight with no training. Your chances of getting into a fist fight with a boxer is very slim compared to your chances of meeting up with a mean drunk.

People like Marc MacYoung, Peytonn Quinn and Rory Miller basically do not put too much emphasis on getting into a ring with a person that does another style. Instead, a guy in a armored suit that mimics the types of attacks you will most often see seems to be the best way to prepare for an actual attack rather than a sporting event.

I have gone through it and it was second only to some of the most off the wall, dangerous training I went through with one of the shihan in Japan. I really recommend it to anyone who wants to find out how adrenaline running through their veins affects them.

Posted on: 2009/10/2 11:59
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Re: Is Bujinkan’s credibility eroding?
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jwills79 wrote: Mr. Zoughari believes like Mr. Roley but he hasn't yet presented any evidence which I hoping will come out in his next book



Maybe. I am waiting to see. Of course, I have Japanese sources as well.

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jwills79 wrote:If it so obvious, then where is your book? You could have made a killing on the Bujinkan members alone. You and your family would have been extremely comfortable.

Or do you simply simply believe that knowledge is for a select chosen few? Those chosen should learn the history is completely true.

Or do you think it doesn't matter because I believe so in my heart? I have dedicated so much of time and money which benefited in my personal life that I will just believe blindly.


I do not see a reason to take the time to write a book when the stuff I might add might already be covered. Your logic that I would is flawed in that respect.

Right now, I am working on a translation of the shoninki. I do not know if even that will find a publisher willing to print it.

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Re: Is Bujinkan’s credibility eroding?
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I find the idea that someone who can read Japanese would come to me instead of sources in Japanese like the ones I recommend to be rather amusing.

Posted on: 2009/9/27 14:54
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Re: Not Again!
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At risk of rolling out an old cliché I believe they say it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by four, but then few of us have spent any time in prison and many who have done so choose death rather than prolongue their incarceration, innocent or otherwise.....


I really do not know anyone who has had to face the legal system that uses that phrase.

And I have found that the people that seem to use it the most do so to justify the most stupid stuff you can imagine.

I knew one guy who insisted on carrying a concealed weapon even though it was against the law. When asked why he was doing so, he said the fastest way to get to where he was going was through a very bad area. When asked why he did not just take ten extra minutes to go around the hell hole, he made excuses as to why he HAD to drive through it.

There seem to be a lot of people that put themselves in a fight and then later claim that what they were doing was self defense. Wasn't there a guy who left a hockey game after having words with someone, got a weapon went back and when things went south and he killed the other guy tried to claim self defense? The judge did not seem to agree IIRC.

I think that getting gang raped in the prison showers is better than certain death. That puts things in a better perspective than the standard saying. Instead of saying you are willing to face a court of law, say you are willing to be sold for cigarettes for the next 20 years and ask if what you are doing is worth it. You might just go around an area instead of carrying a concealed weapon against the law.

Fear the legal system almost as much as the criminals. If you do not have a lawyer on retainer, get one now. At least do some searching and talk to a few so that if you get pulled in you know who to get. Can you imagine how hard it is to find a decent lawyer when you are behind bars? And most lawyers IMO will get an innocent person sent away.

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Re: Is Bujinkan’s credibility eroding?
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Well, I tried. But when someone makes excuses to not check the sources I give I have to conclude they may not be looking for answers they don't want and try to help those that are really looking for answers.

I have the advantage that if people come to me and say there seems to be problems with the Togakure ryu and its status in Japan I can pull out my copy of Hiden with Hatsumi on the cover, my copies of Rekishi Dokuhon with the article on the Togakure ryu and several books by independent historians that treat Hatsumi as the head of a historical art and ask them, "why do these experts on the internet trump all of these experts?"

As an aside, I have an extra copy of a 2004 issue of Rekishi Dokuhon that concentrates on ninjutsu if anyone wants it for a fair price. There is an article on the Togakure ryu, but they treat arts like the Koga ryu as dead.

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Re: Is Bujinkan’s credibility eroding?
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The big reasoIt isn't just the bad videos. It is the bad videos and unverifiable claims. With my discussions with Mr. Roley on this forum, Even he has admitted it is difficult to verify some of the claims made by the Bujinkan. .


Actually, what I wrote is the following,

"Right.

So if someone went through all it takes to be a soke, it should be easy to prove that the person who taught you existed. Becoming a soke is not a one night stand. The records of Japan after WWII are very good- so there should be no reason why the existence of a teacher after 1945 should be difficult.

However, just as you can't prove that my grandfather was in the civil war, without someone to ask and question you must assume that things are more difficult to prove. Takamatsu AFAIK was never questioned about his teacher. It is too late to do so. Once you figure out a way to prove my great- grandfather was in the civil war, you might then realize just how difficult it might be for people to find something in another culture and language.

You might also want to go ask the folks at Rekishi Dokuhon, and the various authors that have published things about the Togakure ryu why they did so despite their qualifications if they thought there was any doubt about the matter."

Have you contacted the folks in Japan I mentioned like the folks at Rekishi dokuhon or proved that my great- grandfather fought in the civil war?

Could you prove you were training in a Bujinkan dojo now?

Posted on: 2009/9/26 15:11
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