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Re: Kacem Zoughari out of the Bujinkan?
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HI

this is a difficult thread to really answer to based on the complete farce its turning into.

Mike posts a thread saying dont train with kacem, then he says he is told to retract the post (too late damage is done)

then he says he has also asked some help from Mr Smithers on a posting issue. Why ask him regarding Kacem when is one fo the judan involved in a hate campaign to get kacem kicked out.

There is currently a group of Judan(+) banding together to get kacem kicked out. They all seem to say kacem says this ans that about hatsumi and the bujinkan. The funny thing is do any of these people go to his seminars to hear it first hand or is it another example of Bujinkan politics of invention and creation of crap.

Kacem has a unique skill and a hell of a lot of knowledge. He remains a 4th dan for his own reasons and I have heard several and they are excellent ones. Most of the judan should take some of his reasons and look at themselves. Some Judan went from 5th to 10th in a few weeks and some one even told me a 28 year old was a 15th dan. We all get ranks for our own reasons.

I personally think that many Judan refuse to train with kacem for one reason alone. That 4th dan will show them up and show everyone how bad there skill is and also how rotten there taijutsu is.

Why not do the japanese thing - if its not in your dojo leave it alone. if it does not involve you or effect you personally leave it alone.

As for his comments attacking or dissing hatsumi and the bujinkan.
1. Attack or bad mouthing hatsumi. I have yet to find one person who will back this up who has been to one of his seminars. Yet i can find 100's who make such claims but never once heard him themselevs.
2. Attacking the bujinkan - yes he has and this is where the real issues lies. He comment son the lack of skill of the average Judan. He also comments on the lack of knowledge of the average judan.

Its a case of jealousy and panic amongst the Judan they are afraid he will show their students just how little skill some of them have and how good others are.

They say knowledge is power and kacem has a lot of power if thats the case and the average judan is worried his power is starting to disappear.

Why dont you all grow up and keep your minds on your own training and your own dojos and keep your noses out of other peoples businesses.

This how issue has again proven how unstable the Bujinkan is and how much you cant trust anyone

I think that band of Judan should all be ashamed of themselves for there pathetic little witch hunt. I hope it shows everyone that they should be the ones we dont train with

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Re: Godan test outside of Japan ?
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Talk to SKH, he had his nose broken during one test.
Ed Martin aka Papa-san


How does someone manage to get a broken nose from an attack that originates from the rear??????????

Posted on: 2006/2/16 17:27
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Re: Ishitani-sensei a menkyo holder in Togakure Ryu?
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I've heard before about this Shinden Muso Rtyu and I think from recollection that it is what we now call Shinden Fudo Ryu Jutaijutsu. As for myself I don't know if its true or not. Any One.

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Shinden Muso Ryu and Shindenfudo Ryu are two completely different Ryu, I dont see how you can make the connection.

If it is just because it is called Shinden , then there are dozens of Ryu that must be Shindenfudo ryu then.

Its like saying Shinkage are all related when they are not

Posted on: 2006/2/16 17:22
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Re: List of Gyokko Ryu Waza
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Hi

this is the sort of thing I was refering to in my post.

A great classic example of why not to trust anything you see on the web.

If the poster is using this list as he has laid it out and is passing it to other people then he needs to get back on the mat and start training, he has not listed a correctly structured list adn several kata are mis-spelt.

The first mistake was - 'Sho ryaku' - and it just continued.

I rest my case.


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i am not afraid or ashamed of the info i have and i will share it( the names anyway).
1.sho ryaku-first level techniques
omote gyaku
ura gyaku
torite kihon gata
omote gyaku henka
musha dori
muso dori
o gyaku
koku
renyo
danshu
danshi
gyaku nagare
keo/fuo
hanebi
keto
yubi kudaki
2. shime waza-techniques against binds and chokes
ketsu myaku
satei
teiken
3. chu ryaku-middle level techniques
ujaku
seito
dashin
koraku
hosen
kohane tsurube
shien
horaku
4. geriraku-techniques against sword
shun u
shun soku
ichi geki
kai soku
koryo
iai fuji
chin gan
fume
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hope this helps

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Re: List of Gyokko Ryu Waza
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Hi

some one comes on here and says give me the names and when some one actually says no ask your instructor and gives very good reasons, others just hand out locations to get the stuff.

If the person is too lazy to ask his instructor, or even better still get off there fat backsides and study the kata and write there own notes, they definately dont need to be spoon fed with web locations.

They managed to find this forum, dont encourage them to become any lazier than they are already.

I agree with Jeff 100% on this topic. No kata should be listed on the web and none should be passed about like candy to people who maybe are nothing more than 10th kyu.

Everyone wants the easy way. Tough in budo there is only one way - and thats get on the mat and off your keyboard. Train, write your own notes, thats the way it should be.

And as for this comment he made

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Mueller-San, I actually wrote something really sarcastic but decided not to send it. I didn't know that it taboo to ask this question. Enjoy your forum.

The sheer ignorant arrogance of this person is beyond me. He shouldnt have been given any help by any one after this. Not because it was aimed at Jeff, but because it was aimed at a senior rank and he has shown a complete lack of respect for other forum members.

Manners are free

Posted on: 2005/12/21 23:08
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Re: Kukishin Ryu and Takagi Yoshin Ryu connection
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I think I had read in the past that Kukishin and Takagi Yoshin Ryu had crossed paths before Takamatsu Soke inherited the lineages.I also noticed that the techniques of Kukishin Ryu Taijutsu and Takagi Yoshin Ryu were very similar ex. Do Gaeshi Kasumi Dori and so on? Does any one have any information on this and what are the difference's between the Kukishin Taijutsu and Takagi Yoshin Ryu techniques,also are the techniques of Kukishin Ryu Taijutsu taught in the Bujinkan? I know Hatsumi Soke only hold the title for Kukishin Ryu Happo Biken so would it be crossing the line to teach the Kukishin Ryu Taijutsu?


Hi

I have seen two versions of this book. One with and one without RVD name on the cover, the one without makes no mention of him being the author.

Does any one know the stand on this.

Posted on: 2005/12/15 4:55
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Re: Nine ryu, nine different personalities?
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These Koryu historials are very intelligent and do know what they are talking about but there is one thing they avoid when they start there attacks on the Bujinkan.

Many of these koryu that they study were created by people no different than Takamatsu or Hatsumi who did dojo hopping studying under one teacher for one year here another year there. Some of these past Soke were even soke of more than one ryu at any given time, if it was ok for them way not for hatsumi now.

Takamatsu studied with more teachers than the 3 we talk about frequently, he studied with several different Takagi and Kuki teachers. hatsumi did plenty of gendai and koryu budo before he settled with takamatsu.

This type of behaviour was common in the old days.

I tend to think they are just jealous, why are they so upset?, Japanese budoka couldnt really care what the other dojo and ryu are doing as long as it personally doesnt effect them.

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Re: Jutte Book or Video
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forget about books, you need a teacher. A book will not tell you when you are wrng and who is to say the book is right in the first place.

In Japanese budo you go to a teacher to learn, then and only when you have completed your training do they give you a boook with the technquies in.

I htink in the west we have got too acustomed to getting a book when we go to school at the beginning of a course and then studying from that books.

Budo is about physical training with theoretical training coming 2nd

Posted on: 2005/12/5 23:27
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Re: Togakure Ryu Wazas?
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HI

the best place to start looking would be two videos produced by hatsumi sensei

1. Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu
2. Ninja Biken (sword stuff form said school)

The foundation videos are not just Togakure ryu, you will see stuff from Kukishinden, Koto and Gyokko ryu on those 2 videos.

If you have stuff from RVD tghen you should be able to also buy the video/dvd from him

Posted on: 2005/12/3 19:56
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Re: Kacem Zoughari- Book
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HI Paolo

thanks for the info

thanks for the offer of a chance to see him in Italy but I have seen him several times this year myself in the UK and USA

Steve

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