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the essence of something
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So i was thinking the other day......best way to start a comment, ne?

what constitutes painting? perhaps simply a brush used to apply a prepared liquid to a surface.

what constitutes charcoal drawing? perhaps a piece of charcoal used on as surface.

what constitutes drawing in general? perhaps an instrument used on a surface.

so I pose the question, what constitutes Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu?

p.s. I realized after I wrote the above that the three initial questions+answers follow a progression from complex to simple.....subconscious stuff is cool.

Posted on: 2007/10/31 1:16
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The clue is in the title, "Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu"
as in the examples given......


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I ask this question because I always hear/read something to the effect of, "Well that's not Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu," followed usually by vague references.

Can anyone clarify what constitutes Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu?

I'll start.

1. Soke's Kuden

Posted on: 2007/10/31 6:34
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I've been confused by the response, too. Watch "What is Budo" Something about not adapting and dying... I don't know. Can you imagine where we would be if the old, old, jujitsu, or sumo guys told the chinese striking wasn't part of our budo?

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I get confused on that too Samuel, the "that's not Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu" thing. My response from Dr Hatsumi was that ANYTHING that works is Bujinkan. That is the test, does it work!

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The clue is in the title, "Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu"
as in the examples given......



That is a loaded comment

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I get confused on that too Samuel, the "that's not Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu" thing. My response from Dr Hatsumi was that ANYTHING that works is Bujinkan. That is the test, does it work!


What Ed, No purist cool-ade? Good on you!

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My response from Dr Hatsumi was that ANYTHING that works is Bujinkan. That is the test, does it work!


That again very interesting! How would one make that decision, then, weather something works or not? And, works where?

If I again take an example... say Taekwondo. That, being a olympic sport, has been very much steered into that direction - depending on the rules no hitting in the head etc.

So, that works great in the tournament... but does it "work for Bujinkan"? Is it OK to take a form of Taekwondo and teach that in a Bujinkan class as it worked in a competition and brough someone a gold medal?


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My response from Dr Hatsumi was that ANYTHING that works is Bujinkan. That is the test, does it work!


sweet! so I can be 'doing bujinkan' even if I decide to never train in the bujinkan again and instead do something else.

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My response from Dr Hatsumi was that ANYTHING that works is Bujinkan. That is the test, does it work!


Ed, That can be a very dangerous trap to fall into !!!

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[ If I again take an example... say Taekwondo. That, being a olympic sport, has been very much steered into that direction - depending on the rules no hitting in the head etc.
So, that works great in the tournament... but does it "work for Bujinkan"? Is it OK to take a form of Taekwondo and teach that in a Bujinkan class as it worked in a competition and brough someone a gold medal?



This is not what he is saying and this is a silly example.

How about some of the gun drawing techniques?

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