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Shoten No Jutsu Training Methods
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Does anyone know of any effective methods for practicing Shoten no jutsu (running up vertical surfaces)? i can't seem to do it on a 90 degree surface quite yet, and was hoping that someone had an idea or two about how to build up this skill gradually. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated.

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Masaaki Hatsumi mentions training methods for Shoten no jutsu in his books "Togakure ryu Ninpo Taijutsu" and "Way of the Ninja", recently released by Kodansha International. Also, I found some great insight to this topic on "Togakure ryu Ninjutsu", a video available from Quest. Hope this helps!

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What methods are you currently applying to your shoten no jutsu training, and who do you train with?

BTW, I like how you think!

Posted on: 2004/8/15 20:56
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The only time I've seen this being done in Japan was at Noguchi-sensei's kids class in the small dojo at his house.

They would run up one wall and run the three metres (?) across the floor to run up the wall on the other side - back and forth. The effect looked a bit like a skateboarder on a half-pipe.

Because of this I actually have tried it a few times at the skatepark near my house, in the morning when no-one else is there. It's quite good because the slope increases gradually. It's also fun watching my dogs try it - one always manages it but the other one sometimes gets most of the way and then slides down the wall.

Also when I first came to Japan I lived in a country town near Hiroshima and could see straight away why this skill was important - lots of sloping stone retaining walls everywhere.

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First of all thank you for the helpful input so far. Right now my shoten no jutsu training consists of using a wooden plank positioned against a tree at a 45 degree angle or so and then running up the plank. i have also tried running up regular trees, though i think that i need to get a better grasp of technique before i'll start to see more success in that area. i've also played around with running up the metal fences that you see surrounding tennis courts, etc. They are a bit flexible, so there is slightly more grip when trying to get over them. Still, i can't get more than two or at most three steps before i get pushed back from the surface and fall back to the ground. Does anyone have any other training ideas for improving this skill? input is greatly appreciated. Thanks

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If your interested in Shoten, you may enjoy these:

Here is a clip from my Dojo:
http://www.bujin-kan.com/taihen_vid/run.WMV

And here are some pics of shoten from a recent camp we had:
http://www.bujin-kan.com/photos/categories.php?cat_id=8


Posted on: 2004/8/30 23:12
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If you're unable to find someone local from the Bujinkan who can teach you tips and tricks for this, then have a look for an Urban Freeflow group, also known as Le Parkour. They really flow over the landscape.

http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/

And their breakfalls aren't bad, either:
http://www.le-parkour.com/cyril.mpeg

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Quote:


And their breakfalls aren't bad, either:
http://www.le-parkour.com/cyril.mpeg


That is incredible.

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woah...
ok and from that website just realised why my spine hurts on slate :( im extra bony so I feel everything...
nice few tips to learn now!

Posted on: 2004/8/31 23:45
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heh, I've been looking at this art for a while now, I might take it up to complement my bujinkan training. If you can perform a succesful breakfall from that high, regular breakfalls should be nothing. And If there's anything that'll help you with Shoten No Jutsu Training Methods, it's Parkour.


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