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Re: Grading Curricullum
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For one thing, that would drastically reduce the number of yondans around, I'm sure.

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Drastically? Hm. Yes.

I suppose Zero would be a drastic reduction.

-Daniel


When Soke tells us to be 'zero' I don't this is what he has in mind... (Sorry, I know that was a lame joke)

"mastery of the physical skills of the Bujinkan"... That's an awesome thought. Then to deserve my sandan I should be going for 7 of the 9 schools of the Bujinkan (3/4, rounded up) and God-knows how many weapons.

And if Soke or one of the Japanese Shihan promotes someone to yondan then that would be a great compliment to their taijutsu, wouldn't it? :)

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And if Soke or one of the Japanese Shihan promotes someone to yondan then that would be a great compliment to their taijutsu, wouldn't it? :)

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Not in particular, no...

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"And if Soke or one of the Japanese Shihan promotes someone to yondan then that would be a great compliment to their taijutsu, wouldn't it? :)"

could be.....also, couldn't be......

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Going back to curriculum...

If one has a large set, like 10 things per each level of Kyû grades, and the curriculum should reflect the training, too, right?

Then, one has one student on each Kyû-grade... Might this mean that the whole curriculum should be practised every training, more than less?

Though, if it's up to the trainee to find out what the things required for the next grade are, and up to him to learn them, to train in them, so he can pass the exam...

This might make time between each Kyû-grade quite long in some cases.

Thoughts on this view?

Posted on: 2008/1/24 4:04
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Then, one has one student on each Kyû-grade... Might this mean that the whole curriculum should be practised every training, more than less?


This is a very good point. We can have set criteria for each of the kyu grades, but unless we are at the point when we can have separate classes for each grade (Mon 7-8pm 7th kyu, Mon 8-9pm 6th kyu, Tues 7-8pm 5th kyu...) teaching and enforcing those criteria will be quite difficult in day-to-day training.

I dream of the day when the Bujinkan in Singapore grows to that point. Some of the organic, living feel might be lost though, so I am asking myself if it's worth it...

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This might make time between each Kyû-grade quite long in some cases.

Thoughts on this view?


Some people don't see it as a problem. In BJJ it can take 10 years to get a black belt, in Aikido over here in Singapore it can take about 5 years. I don't see a problem with a long time in each Kyu-grade, as long as we're kicking butt in the process. :)

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I don't use my curriculum as a teaching guide... so really it has no bearing on how classes are taught.

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This might make time between each Kyû-grade quite long in some cases.

Thoughts on this view?


How much is the average time between each kyu grade at your dojo?

At home(Hungary) it was at least 6 months (with 2-3 trainings per week), and even then it is not always enough. Also going from 1kyu to shodan requires at least a year of training (sometimes more. That means you spend minimum 6 years in training until you reach shodan. (of course it can be a lot longer too)

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How much is the average time between each kyu grade at your dojo?

Per lower grades 3 months between, 6 months on higher ones. Twice a week as the "visiting frequency".

To reach a Shodan is "counted" at 3 1/2 years. But, that seems very, very rare thing to happen Maybe because we have a long list of things to know per grade

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hi ,

just thought i would add something to this topic.

i have been in the bujinkan for quite a long time and seen people come and go.

quite alot of years ago when i was training a little with peter king , he put out a training manual for 9th kyu to 4th dan.
now this was for bujinkan britian and in it you had to know the whole of the first level of gyokko ryu for shodan , the whole of the koto ryu and takagi yoshin ryu first levels for nidan, shinden fudo ryu jutaijutsu and dakentaijutsu levels for sandan, the whole of the kuishinden ryu first level and the togakure ryu santo tonkou no kata for yondan.

i take it peter must have got this from japan .
which would mean kacem zoughari would be right in what he has said in the past.

the trouble at the moment is that poeple have not picked up all the ryu correctly so in that say it gets passed on from one to another incorrect.

wayne

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Anyone want to comment on promoting someone in a wheel chair? Do they deserve to be promoted or should it be 2 years between kyu grades?

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