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Re: Legality Of Traditional and Modern Ninpo Weapons In CA
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California Weapons Law

Try this link for the information. I suggest reading the whole thing.

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Re: Legality Of Traditional and Modern Ninpo Weapons In CA
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I used to carry daisho (aluminum training blades) to class. I carried them to class in a guitar case... it worked!


This thread is about what weapons are legal and what are illegal in California - not about how to hide weapons or walk around with concealed weapons. Please be aware of what is and is not legal with regard to concealed weapons when discussing concealing weapons in open forums here. These forums are open to the world for anyone to read, including law enforcement personnel. Please don't discuss any kind of illegal activity in public forums. (Shunketsu, this is not aimed specifically at you, but I think the point needed to be made.)

Thanks to Robert for the Cali weapons law link!

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Posted on: 2008/9/15 8:17
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kouryuu wrote:
...(Shunketsu, this is not aimed specifically at you, but I think the point needed to be made.)

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Shawn


Point taken. Thanks for the reminder. :)

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Posted on: 2008/9/15 15:38
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Re: Legality Of Traditional and Modern Ninpo Weapons In CA
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Angel wrote:
Thanks for the info.

so are real kusari illegal then?


Here's the problem: Unless I missed some very recent change in Section 12020 of the California Penal Code, they are not -- necessarily -- illegal because they are not mentioned in the statute. However, the wording of the statutory definition of a nunchaku is such that it could apply to a kusarifundo, even though historically one is an Okinawan weapon and the other Japanese, and they have different proper names.

You could even be arrested in California for possession of a weapon which has no historical existence: The dreaded "shobizue", which appears likely to be a corruption of "shinobi-zue".

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Yes, along with Cane Swords, and Senbans.


Yes, cane swords are illegal -- possession is a felony. Shuriken can be tricky in terms of legal definition: You could argue that if the points do not have "sharpened edges" they are not -- legally speaking -- shuriken, because the statutory language defines them as having one or more sharpened edges. I would NOT recommend relying on that sort of nit-picky point, however.

Thanks to Robert Krone for posting that link.

Posted on: 2008/9/16 0:51
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Re: Legality Of Traditional and Modern Ninpo Weapons In CA
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Dale,
they do come under the same section as nunchaku;
Connecticut Penal Code Sec. 53a-1 et seq. cited. 44 CA 622. .... (21) "Martial arts weapon" means a nunchaku, kama, kasari-fundo, octagon sai, ...

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Dang, they actually did get it in there somewhere by name.

Thanks for the info!

Guess I'll just stick with my folder, C2 Taser, and little 80-lumen tactical flashlight for everyday carry.

Posted on: 2008/9/17 4:48
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How about "The Mariachi"?Quote:

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Posted on: 2008/9/20 3:21
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I felt the guitar case played a bigger role in the first one.

Besides, selma......


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Posted on: 2008/9/20 18:23
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Hmmm. Been a long time since I've been in CA. Think I'll stick to trusty 1911. Thank God for HR 218!!

Seriously .... I haven't read the legal link yet so this questioned may have been answered. If it is illegal to possess these weapons except in the dojo or other designated training location, how does one get them to the dojo wihout being in violation, technically???

If its illegal to ship these weapons into CA then how does one acquire them for training, save leaving the state? Would a shdoshi be required to carry his shidoshi-kai card with him to prove that he is an instructor to CA LE officials? Just food for thought there.

Posted on: 2008/10/5 16:12
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Yes, they should be kept at the dojo, but most take that chance. Also most students only bring the training weapon (legal)on avarage, not the live weapon unless it is a live weapon training class that day. Second, there are suppliers who will ship to California.

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