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samurai sword ban in ireland
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from tuesday 1 september 2009
the irish government has put a total ban on the
sale or import of samurai swords due to the increase
of knife and swords attacks in ireland of
recent.times


and as of yet we dont know if there will be a government licence
for genuine holders of samurai swords such as martial artists and collectors similiars to a gun licence

we have several schools of iaido , bujinkan
and aikido practioners who use samurai swords.


i will up date as soon as i no more info

Posted on: 2009/9/9 15:52
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I hope it is the same as the new UK laws which have affected me,,,hmmmm let me think,,,,,as yes....not at all.

I can still buy as many swords as I like, and of the quality I expect as a minimum anyway, i.e Chinese-forged carbon steel serviceable mogito, and even more importantly, the few vendors who remain in business appear not to have increased their prices to take advantage of the monopolous position they find themselves in.

It is only the mass sellers of chav-tana who appear to have lost out, although I feel the horse has rather bolted in terms of the hundreds of thousands of crap wallhangers already out there, which inevitably end up being the ones used in acts of violence, and are quite rightly banned, Sorry Battle Orders but it's true.

So it didn't turn out all that bad in the end

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ElfTengu wrote:

It is only the mass sellers of chav-tana who appear to have lost out, although I feel the horse has rather bolted in terms of the hundreds of thousands of crap wallhangers already out there, which inevitably end up being the ones used in acts of violence, and are quite rightly banned, Sorry Battle Orders but it's true.

So it didn't turn out all that bad in the end


Actually, the new sword laws, coupled with Japan Post's refusing to ship to certain places, as well as the crappy state of the world economy has been devastating to seller of real japanese blades.

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Yes I hadn't thought of that, there are of course losers, although far less than originally envisaged as per my previous statement, but Japan Post appears to be the culprit if they are refusing to ship items where there is no legal reason not to do so, although their skittishness is no doubt probably due to the lack of clarity as to the actual current UK legal situation.

A resourceful individual might consider re-routing swords via somewhere that Japan is happy to ship to. This is standard practice during trade embargoes of far greater magnitude.

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Samurai Sword Ban In Force

A ban on the possession of Samurai swords has come into effect from today.

The order, brought in by Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern as part of measures to tackle knife crime, makes the sale, importation, purchase or possession of the Japanese weapons illegal.

Defying the ban could mean up to seven years in prison, however, it does not apply to ornate hand-carved swords made before 1954.

The swords, correctly known as 'katana', have been made popular in Hollywood films, such as Quentin Tarrantino's Kill Bill and feature in many martial art movies from Japan, as well as China.

The swords were historically been associated with the samurai of feudal Japan, and had become renowned for their sharpness and mythical cutting ability.

A number of the weapons have been used in assaults in Ireland, triggering gardaí to request the swords be included in the wider ban of possession of dangerous weapons, which has gone into statute today.

The Justice Minister has also recently increased the penalty for possessing a knife in a public place from one to five years.

Last month Mr Ahern described a recent spate of knife attacks as 'very worrying', but he said the Government was working to try to raise awareness in an effort to reduce knife crime.


this is an up date on sweord ban

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We have just received an e-mail from the Department of Justice inviting us to give our views on a review of current legislation.

A chara,

You will be aware that a number of crimes have been committed using what
has been described as 'samurai swords'. The Department of Justice,
Equality and Law Reform has received representations from TDs and members
of the public that such weapons should be banned. We are presently
reviewing the current legislation.

The Department does not wish to unnecessarily restrict or adversely impact
on cultural, sporting or dramatic activities. We would welcome your views
and submissions on this issue. The term 'samurai sword', though in popular
usage, is problematic in that it refers only to swords made during the
samurai era in Japan. It clearly does not refer to the types of swords
being used in violent crimes. We are open to any better suggestions you
might put forward.

We are also looking at providing exemptions for martial arts practioners
and would be interested in your views of how this would work. Would
specific swords be exempted based on how they are manufactured or would one
need to be a registered club member to purchase a sword?

We might put a meeting together in early February where we could discuss
these matters. In the meantime, I would be grateful if you would consider
the issue and get back to me with your comments.
another up date

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Here's an idea for you, have the minister check the crimes done with swords and see if ANY have been committed by member of a registered martial arts school. I suspect that none have. If you have access to the records then you check. If that is so then you'd have a strong case for exempting people training from their ban. People who train are rarely involved in violent criminal activity or criminal acts of any kind. We tend to be very law abiding citizens.

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So, how about samurai swords collector in ireland? Are they included?

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it seems kind of rediculous to ban the weapons, criminals dont pay attention to bans anyway. (kinda like the saying in the US "when you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns")
Perhaps they should do more over there to fight crime, not ban objects used in crime

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Is there any official link as to the full text of that ban?

I havent thougt of it in a while, but maybe its better to take the collection of display.... I would be for either martial artists or with a license.

germany has a license if you own more than 2 swords or generalised cut and thrust weapons, you will need to purchase a collectors license with the police. then there are rules on how to secure the weapons so your visitors wont be able to "use" it for something

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