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Ryu that use the Hanbo
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Which if the ryu include formal teaching of the Hanbo? I know the majority of material I have used comes from Kukishin ryu.

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You mean of the nine schools forming Bujinkan Dôjô Budô Taijutsu? Or of any schools?

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I was told by one of my ryuha experts that the hanbo techniques on Soke's Kukishin Hanbojutsu (sanjakubojutsu) DVD are not all Kukishin ryu kata.

So, even what's publicly presented isn't going to be exactly per densho.

In addition, if you look at the publicly presented techniques of some of our other ryuha, you don't find weapon techniques listed in the levels of training - but you find defenses against those weapons. So, either the training is in other parts of that ryuha densho, or those training in that school would already have been trained in those skills.

In the case of the Kukishin hanbojutsu, that set of techniques came from an encounter where a yari was broken in battle and the wielder defeated their opponent with the haft. It was born out of a real combat situation, not created out of theory and put into practice to "test" it.

The same may not be said for some of the other ryuha, especially where certain weapons may not be specifically codified in written techniques. In those situations, I think that the training itself is such that any weapon can be picked up and applied without having to learn a new set of skills. In other words, it may already be hardwired into the techniques, without actually being labeled as such.

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hi there,
"somewhere" I've read "gyokko ryu hanbojutsu"...
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I was thinking specifically from the 9 ryu in the Bujinkan.

In my notes, my techniques for the Hanbo have been noted as being specific to Kukishin ryu (never saw the video).

Most of the infromation I have seen other people do, waza and kata wise seem to be Kukishin ryu as well.

Is Kukishin ryu the only one with Hanbo and all the others use Jo or Rokushakubo?

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Posted on: 2006/11/20 23:05
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As far as I've seen Kukishin-ryû is the main source for all our wooden weapons like Rokushakubô, Jô and Hanbô. But, then, that's what I know, and that might not be much

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there is a video of Kukishinden Ryu Hanbojutsu and Shikomezue. Most (if not all) wooden weaponary comes from Kukishinden Ryu. Even the Bo has some schools that are sort of related to each other. But then, some of the wooden weaponary are not the standard 3 foot staff.

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maybe the correct answer is all the ryu ?
consider the hanbo an extension of your body and use your taijutsu !!!!!
first try to learn all the kata or ideas/strategies in the ryu then .....maybe
try to do them with a bo in your hand ..or a walking stick???

don't try to do a technique .. let it evolve from your taijutsu ..and the situation ...spontaneously and free


but then again what the hell do i know ?

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Naturally, you can naturally use any weapon as an extension of your Taijutsu, but that might not have been the Q... but the syllabus for Hanbô, set forms for that weapon specifically.

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Quote:

Yamazu wrote:
that might not have been the Q... but the syllabus for Hanbô, set forms for that weapon specifically.


thats gonna be a whole lot of typing

Posted on: 2006/11/22 18:06
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